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A few of the recent stories we have heard......

The worst reports are about those dealing in quite old fashioned spas from Down Under, usually assembled from rather out of date equipment from North America.

Although we have been established over 26 years we are constantly learning. This list includes problems found on old designs of spas, that can now be avoided with the use of the much better materials and technology now available. One notable point is all major US manufacturers avoid softwood cedar cabinets, quality companies now fit rot and animal proof polymer panels that need no maintenance what so ever. Additionally, spas that are supported by foam, pallet timber and glue have been exposed against newly engineered galvanised steel frames now fitted to advanced spas.

• Confusing Warranties. What seem to be long warranties on the shell (will they be here to help if there is a problem in 10 years) that they no doubt hope will make you overlook the small print that reveals what can only be described as vague One Year Warranties on what really matters, the working equipment. Some shell warranties only cover the ability of the spa to hold water!! Not delaminating and cracking.

• Contract delivery men just dropping a spa off at the end of the drive and offering no help expecting the customer to do the rest.

• Customers in frustration trying to fix pumps themselves and finding no one has parts for obscure makes of pumps from Down Under.

• Phoney “Site Surveys” just so a pushy salesman can get in the door.

• Rotten, bowed or swelled wood cabinets from poor storage. These cabinets are not designed for Britain’s damp weather but more the heat of Florida or the crisp cold of Canada. Always note that few cabinets carry a warranty of more than a year

• Companies going bust, at least 4 companies claiming a high profile (although actually quite new set ups) have gone out of business, one actually trading while insolvent.

• No Cooling Off Period for orders placed.

• Huge delivery vehicles with tail lifts turning up that just can not get near the house and just leave spas some way a way on the street.

• Out of Date Models being unloaded on an unsuspecting and ignorant public. Always check when the spa was manufactured and the serial numbers, then e mail this to the manufacturer for verification.

• Last Chance offers - what are claimed to be the best offers ever in December becoming even better in January and February.

• Cash Deals - we are horrified by the number of customers who tell us they have been offered “cash” prices by dodgy dealers to avoid the VAT. This is illegal and should immediately alert customers to the types of operation they are dealing with. Plus you will have no come back what so ever as most of these types of set ups are companies that disappear over night.

• Trailer park Spas usually from Florida. People find they have bought a spa of the lowest common denominator with little or no insulation and out of date features and shapes. Remember it does not freeze in Florida and few Floridian companies sell much out of Florida for this reason.

• Pressure Doorstep Salesmen turning up to do a phoney survey and then trying to crowbar customers into buying a low specification spa at a ludicrous price, usually with an unbelievably expensive finance deal? This is very much like notorious vacuum cleaner sales people.

• New companies offering long warranties without any tangible way of how they will be able to support them. Typically companies have only been established 10 months but are offering 10 years shell warranties and parts and labour without stock or technicians

• All quality US & Canadian manufacturers are experienced in the creation of quality shells, so we only hear of high warranties for delamination from markets where this is a big issue, in particular in Europe. Several European manufacturers have had huge problems with shells delaminating or bubbling and have a need to restore customer confidence. You will find the majority of companies for this, and many other reasons, have dropped low tech local manufacturers products from their portfolios.

• Nothing to pay for a year “deals” where they also try and force you to buy insurance (quite illegally) and you can end up paying nearly £9,000 for a basic spa that only costs around £2,500 to £3,000 in American shops.

• Sales people running off with cash deposits or denying they ever had one, there has been at least one high court action over this.

• Old Fashioned “Pressure” Filters that most companies dropped years ago in favour of more expensive and better top access surface skimmers that still use “pressure” not gravity as claimed. We had clamp top (to use their correct name) filters on our cheaper spas 6 years ago when we phased them out as did all other leading US manufacturers.

• 1 Year Warranties starting from day of manufacture. This is a real problem if your spa has been tossing about on the Ocean for months coming from Down Under.

• False Pump Horse Power – with some companies claiming 2 HP pumps are 5 HP pumps. The only correct measure of pump power is KW output.

• Straight forward price list with no one being able to send out but wanting to know what your “budget” is, so they know how much they can Rip You Off for.

• Wooden Cabinets Rotting swelling and falling apart as they are not really suitable for our long wet winters

• Companies not listing what you are actually getting, in particular the number of pumps and jets so you end up with just a big tub of water.

• Polystyrene or Blow Up Paddling Pools sold as spas that are really just air bubble units without any hydro jets, with some companies asking over a £1000 and others less than £500 all for the same spa. We have heard of 40 % returns on one make!

• Rip Off Boys or ROBs as they are known in the trade, are working together at dealer and sales level in many areas and shows to restrict choice and keep prices high .This is quite obvious when you phone around in many areas where companies all have the same story to justify their high prices. “You Get What You Pay For” ….” We are the Mercedes” etc etc all from quite new operations and sales staff.

• Price fixing try phoning around along the South Coast for a well known brand that is typically £4,000 to £6,000 more in Britain than it is in Canada. All the dealers know each other!

• Companies claiming products are Made in Britain or Wales when in fact they are just assembling imported parts, (usually badly). Even the glue is imported.

• One of the strangest aspects of the British spa market is the amount of “authoritive” new spas dealers who have actually never sold a spa but see it as an easy market to get into. They just copy information from other sites in the USA , but not the prices !, even if the spas they are offering don’t have these features,

Advice

• Always visit a company’s service and distribution centre

• Always check a company’s account on line at companies’ house

• Always get them to put in writing any claims over pump size and water treatment

NEWS

Warranty work and back up - the company who actually sell to you is responsible for this.

BUYING TIPS

• Portable Spas, Garden Spas, Hot Tubs and Italian sounding names are much the same type of product and use the same venturi hydrotherapy jet principle.

• See if all positions in the spa can deliver decent massage at the same time. Ask for all the jets in spas to be turned on, and then check the power of each without power being diverted to it from another set of jets. Diverted power is fine if explained and suits your typical spa use.

• Ask for a printed copy of the current price list

• Don’t be fooled by expressions like “you get what you pay for” we are the “Rolls Royce of Spas” etc – all to justify high prices on standard North American Spas.

• Ask how long they have been trading at the address they are at

 
 

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